18 Şubat 2008 Pazartesi

[Dems2008] Re: Does Barack Obama Suck?

you say "a very broken political party?"   Have to disagree.   Not only are we raising funds on a scale that makes the GOP look like a bake sale, and not only are we bringing out Dems to vote in MULTIPLES of the Repelican turnout, but we have two generally superb candidates about whom to disagree.

Over 52 years of watching my party, I've seen lots of contested primary seasons; that a party of our size and scope, in a nation of more than 300 million folks might have two, three or four very good candidates jousting for the nomination is not a sign that we are broken.

In baseball or basketball terms, it's a sign of our "depth" and the strength of our "bench."    Let's await the results of the general election this fall before deciding which of the national parties is "broken."

"Broken" could mean a party with a minority fundamentalist still campaigning after his party has virtually handed the nomination to McCain, a party where all the conservative radio talk show hosts are preaching mutiny, and a party where Pat Robertson concludes that the candidate of God is Rudolph Giuliani.   Now, that's a party that may be "broken," or, at a minimum, slightly off-track.


--- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, juliej <ceojuliej1@...> wrote:
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> Why not? Obama gets it both ways too. The point is the Dems have split. It is a very broken political party. I blame Obama for that. Simple.
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Rob Harrington Eamon1916@...
> To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 3:31:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Re: Does Barack Obama Suck?
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> It's kinda funny how you say that... When it's something good about Bill... Hillary gets the credit... "Oh Hillary was right there throughout Bill's administration! ".... when it's something bad about Bill... "Hey, Bill's not running... Hillary is!"
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> You guys can't have it both ways...
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> Slainte,
> Rob Harrington
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: juliej ceojuliej1@yahoo. com>
> To: Dems2008@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 6:06:14 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Re: Does Barack Obama Suck?
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> Hey!!! Bill Clinton isn't running. It's Hillary. These are two different people.
> At least Bill is a smart spouse. I think there is something very wrong with Michelle. She will end up getting Obama in trouble before March 4... just watch. She's as bad as John Kerry's wife.
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: azober2000 azober@gmail. com>
> To: Dems2008@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 2:05:42 PM
> Subject: [Dems2008] Re: Does Barack Obama Suck?
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> Yes, many of the voters that voted for Clinton in 92 and 96, but
> didn't vote for Gore orKerry.
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> Aaron
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> --- In Dems2008@yahoogroup s.com, "citation502" <citation502@ ...> wrote:
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> > Of course, while I recognize that you think every question is about you,
> > the dispositive question is whether the majority of independent swing
> > voters -- who will decide the election -- share your zeal for having
> > Bill back in the White House.
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> > --- In Dems2008@yahoogroup s.com, "azober2000" <azober@> wrote:
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> > > Personally I think it would be awesome to have Bill Clinton back in
> > > the White House.
> > >
> > > Aaron
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Dems2008@yahoogroup s.com, "citation502" citation502@ wrote:
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> > > > Anyone who cannot visualize the 20 years of videoclips of Bill and
> > > > Hillary that will SWAMP the television airwaves if Hillary is the
> > > > nominee is either living in a Dream World or has memory loss.
> > > >
> > > > And if you don't think Bill's behavior and videoclips will be part
> > of
> > > > that GOP campaign against her, recall that probably the single-most
> > > > replayed sound bit from one of Romney's last debate appearances was
> > his
> > > > quip about, "The American people don't want Bill Clinton wandering
> > > > around the White House with nothing to do."
> > > >
> > > > The GOP campaign -- because it rests on the merits on the need to
> > sell
> > > > to the U.S. voter a guy who wants us in Iraq for another hundred
> > years,
> > > > who sides with Bush II on the tax cuts for the wealthy, and who
> > doesn't
> > > > know squat about the economy -- will make this campaign about one
> > > > comparison, and one comparison only: The Character of a War Hero and
> > > > POW vs. The Character of the Clintons. It's not a fortuitous
> > accident
> > > > that the GOP wants to run against Hillary.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Dems2008@yahoogroup s.com, Rob Harrington <Eamon1916@> wrote:
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> > > > > Yeah... that's called FREEDOM. And if you don't think the
> > Republicans
> > > > are going to slaughter Clinton with that very point if she's the
> > nominee
> > > > you've been drinking too much kool-aid...
> > > > >
> > > > > I know a couple of die-hard Democrats who have said plain and
> > simple
> > > > that they will not vote for Clinton because of the mandated health
> > > > insurance plan...
> > > > >
> > > > > Slainte,
> > > > > Rob Harrington
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > > > From: azober2000 azober@
> > > > >
> > > > > With his plan, it
> > > > > still will be a privelege. Even if the costs of insurance are
> > > > > lowered, many people still won't sign up for health, because
> > they'll
> > > > > still want to save money. If they think they're not going to get
> > > > > sick, they won't get insurance despite it being less expensive.
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