Aaron, is it personal responsibility and freedom of choice that so enrages you when it comes to healthcare? That a person does not subscribe to a plan -- of his own volition -- does not thereby convert the right to that option into a privilege. While a privilege may be something that is only available to a plurality or a few, it is not also true that the opting in by only a few or a plurality to an option that is available to all somehow coverts that option into a privilege.
--- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, "azober2000" <azober@...> wrote:
>
> I'm sure with Obama's plan, the taxes will help pay for indigents,
> butwith the 15 million still uninsured, the people who pay for
> insurance will likely still have their premiums rise. The taxes can't
> cover everything. With Clinton's plan, there won't be indigents or at
> least there will be a lot less indigents than Obama's. Obama says
> health care should be a right, not a privelege. With his plan, it
> still will be a privelege. Even if the costs of insurance are
> lowered, many people still won't sign up for health, because they'll
> still want to save money. If they think they're not going to get
> sick, they won't get insurance despite it being less expensive.
>
> Aaron
>
> --- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Latham
> gabrielled2003@ wrote:
> >
> > Aaron, get over the Tony Rezko thing. It is not an issue. The
> taxes will pay for indigent people just as Clinton's will.
> >
> > azober2000 azober@ wrote: Yes, except that if taxes
> are increased in both plans, we're at least
> > getting something out of what we pay into with Clinton's plan. Obama
> > will just tax us for plan that does nothing. What's he going to do
> > with all the money he gets from taxing us? Give it Tony Rezko?
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> > --- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, Gabrielle Latham <gabrielled2003@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > The difference is that Obama's is not a forced enrollment,
> HIllary's is.
> > >
> > > juliej <ceojuliej1@> wrote: Excuse me.... but how
> > does Obama expect to pay for this? By increasing taxes which takes
> > more money out of our paychecks.
> > > There is NO difference between either candidates plan.
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Rob Harrington <Eamon1916@>
> > > To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 5:08:53 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Does Barack Obama Suck?
> > >
> > > It's not a slight difference to the woman who doesn't want
> > Hillary-care taking cash out of her paycheck without her permission
> > even though she's having trouble as it is making ends meet...
> > >
> > > Slainte,
> > > Rob Harrington
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Edward Hochman <eah01@>
> > > To: dems2008@yahoogroup s.com
> > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2008 7:39:53 AM
> > > Subject: RE: [Dems2008] Does Barack Obama Suck?
> > >
> > > even though Clinton has a healthcare plan that covers twice the
> > amount of people with just a slight difference in cost.
> > >
> > > ed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > To: Dems2008@yahoogroup s.com
> > > From: natcheche@yahoo. com
> > > Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2008 03:06:45 -0800
> > > Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Does Barack Obama Suck?
> > >
> > > Bush Clinton Clinton Bush Bush then Clinton again No Thanks
> > I don't want a dynasty
> > >
> > > "vermont.john" <vermontjohn@ gmail.com> wrote: I had
> > considered voting for Obama but as I started to take a look at
> > > the big picture, I realized it wasn't such a good idea.
> > >
> > > I also realized that I was about to get suckered into voting for
> > > someone who is an excellent speaker and one who easily deceives
> people.
> > >
> > > It amazed me how many millions of people are being tricked into voting
> > > for Obama. I am going to stick with my vote for Hillary after all.
> > >
> > > I hope people realize that a vote for Obama is a serious mistake. A
> > > little research will tell you all you need to know.
> > >
> > > Good luck, people!!!
> > >
> > > Johnny
> > >
> > > http://www.barackob amasucks. net
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Teach the triple truth to all: A generous heart, kind speech and
> > a life of service and compassion are the things which renew humanity."
> > >
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