[Dems2008] Re: Health and healthcare as a civil or human right

Lisa, P.S. on healthcare:

• I suspect that among the 47 million uninsured children and adults there are a lot of pretty healthy folks; and so I'm guessing (there's some calculation to this, but it is largely a guess) that we would be providing ABOUT on average $3,000 per-person in healthcare per year -- some just a few dollars, others much more than $3,000, but probably on average about $3,000.
• Or, let's assume that we will give ENOUGH healthcare until we have given an average of $3,000 per-person per-year.
• If you do the arithmetic, that's $141 billion -- or something LESS than we are spending each year on Iraq War alone.
• I rest.
• We don't have enough money to pay for the healthcare for all???????    Is someone serious?????  What we don't have enough money for is to pay for this idiotic war in Iraq...........even leaving aside that no one has adequately answered the question we asked at the end of the VietNam War:    How do you ask someone to be the last person to die for a gross mistake?

--- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, lisa pallez <lisapallez@...> wrote:
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> Very well said, or bulleted : )!
> I so agree, but do you see the solution as an expansion of the (for profit only) 'healthcare' industry or as Medicare for all (a la H.R. 676)? Or something else?
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> I'm becoming more convinced that health and healthcare are fundamental rights, not options or privileges
> The preamble to our Constitution, while not a particular operative restraint on power or grant of power, does refer to our having adopted the Constitution in part to "promote the general Welfare"
> Jefferson in the Declaration of Independence wrote, and all others signed onto, the notion that "life" and the "pursuit of happiness" are inalienable RIGHTS.
> Seems to me that the general welfare, life, and the general pursuit of happiness cannot be achieved broadly while 47 million Americans lack the protection of healthcare. Without our health, our welfare, happiness, and lives are jeopardized.
> only conclusion I can come to, therefore, is that the health of Americans under our society's agreement is every bit as much a civil right or human right as equal protection of the laws, freedom of travel, freedom of expression, free exercise, right to counsel, etc., etc. Indeed, perhaps even more important than some of those.
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