[Dems2008] Re: Something I noticed in the debate

If Obama had just lost eleven straight primaries, no one in the media would be talking about him anymore.  

Hillary is not whining about the media; she just happens to be a television critic with strongly held views.

She's not whining about getting the first question;  she's just a serious student of the style and substance of presidential debates, and is sharing with us how she would fight to make debates more equitable.

She's not whining about the Obama campaign's quoting her own book on her view of NAFTA; she's just telling us that she does not write her own books, she can't be blamed for what they say.

She's not whining about Barack's continuing to point out that she voted to authorize the Train Wreck in Iraq.   She's just pointing out that altho she did not read or challenge the intelligence reports provided to Armed Services Cmte on which she served she thought she could trust Bush and Cheney, and take them at their word.

She's not whining about folks linking her to the Clinton Administration's failures on healthcare; she's just reminding us that the eight years during which she served as First Lady are (i) part of her vast experience when you cite good things that happened in the 90s but (ii) not her responsibility when folks say the Clinton Administration touted NAFTA as one of its major accomplishments.

Her pique is understandable; she and NOW gave Bill a pass on his disgraceful behavior in the Oval Office, since that's the price you pay to get the presidency when "it's your turn."

--- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, "Natasha" <objection21@...> wrote:
>
> If Hillary is claiming to be the "experienced" one in this race, she
> shouldn't mind getting the first question. If Obama had gotten the
> first question she would've found a way to make that an issue. I
> like Hillary, honestly, but her actions are getting desperate. If
> she doesn't MIND getting the first question what's the point of
> bringing it up?
>
> I don't think it's sexism that's keeping Hillary back. What's
> holding her back is what she thought would help her; name
> recognition. People know and are sick of Clintons and the baggage
> that comes along with it. Right or wrong, Obama is a sexy story and
> that is why everyone thinks he's a media darling. Obama sells papers
> and teh only way Clinton sells them is if Bill is saying things he
> shouldn't or doing people he shouldn't. It's not all about sex and
> race.
>
> --- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, isabelle isabelle_ms@ wrote:
> >
> > Sandra, unless you're a female you're probably guilty
> > of it.
> >
> >
> > --- Sandra Goodwin bridger82923@ wrote:
> >
> > > ---So true, Isabelle. I think the sexism I've
> > > picked up on can be
> > > very, very subtle. And really, unless you are female
> > > it is hardly
> > > noticed.
> > >
> > > Sandra
> > >
> > > In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, isabelle
> > > <isabelle_ms@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Sandra, there's one true thing I've learned from
> > > this
> > > > election. It's not okay to be rascist, but it's
> > > > perfectly fine to be sexist.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Sandra Goodwin <bridger82923@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > How many of you folks watched the debate last
> > > night?
> > > > >
> > > > > Did anyone else notice what the moderators and
> > > Obama
> > > > > were doing when
> > > > > they were tired of listening to Clinton? They
> > > would
> > > > > begin to fidget
> > > > > and rustle the papers they had in front of them.
> > > It
> > > > > was very
> > > > > distracting but maybe that was what they wanted.
> > >
> > > > > They did not do it
> > > > > even once when Obama was speaking.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sandra
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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