I believe Obama is really going to need the people you mention to
accomplish anything.
For me, I understand where Hillary is coming from. She paints the
clearer picture in my mind. Obama needs to speak more about the steps
he will take. I get too much generalization from him.
Both have a lot to offer America and isn't it a wonderful thing that
we can each have our own opinion on who we favor.
As to the immigration issue...I have not formed an opinion yet.
My main concerns are energy and the economy which in my mind go hand
in hand.
Sandra
In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, T Bill <newbigtech@...> wrote:
>
> Obama has already devised HOW! He has teams in place with past
relationships.
> People Clinton could only dream of getting.. Robert Reich, John
Kerry, Ted Kennedy,
> People on both sides of the aisle are looking for the leadership
that Barack Obama provides.
>
> He has a better detail plan on Immigration than Hillary.
> Read them both. At the the Obama for Pres. web site and Hillary
web site.
>
> Which one can you understand?
> which one has the claerer picture for you?
>
> when the candidates speak... Who makes the most sense?
>
> For me that is Obama.
>
> patrickgfrank <patrickgfrank@...> wrote:
> He will include all parties at the bargaining table in
the Middle
> East, without precondition; that does not mean that he will cave to
> anybody. He has stressed that. This is important.
>
> He will include Republicans and Independents at the bargaining
table,
> when it comes to fashioning a universal health care proposal that is
> workable. He has stressed that. This, too, is important. And that
> doesn't mean he is going to cave on universal health care. He has
> stressed that, too.
>
> Sorry, must get back to the dishes!
>
> Patrick from SC
>
> --- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, "Sandra Goodwin" <bridger82923@>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- Very well said. HOW is the biggest question. HRC can actually
> > tell how step by step.
> > Obama is doing a great job of inspiring people, getting them out
to
> > vote in primaries, and bringing in young people but when it comes
to
> > the nuts and bolts, I am not getting any real answers from him.
> > Perhaps it is partly a question of age and I mean the voters. I'm
in
> > my 50s and though I love an inspiring speech I always find myself
> > asking how the idea can be accomplished.
> > No matter who wins in August I will vote for them but would feel
a
> > lot better about someone who has actually met the other leaders
of
> > the world.
> >
> > Sandra
> >
> > In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, danielsolzman <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > All I hear is how Obama is inspiring everyone to get involved.
But
> > > what I don't hear is HOW he will CHANGE the way things are. How
he
> > > is going to do what he says he will do? I don't see any of that
> > > coming from his rhetoric at all.
> > >
> > > I was anti-HRC for the longest time but I warmed up to her and
> > > believe she is the best candidate for the job. That's not to
> > > disrespect Obama but he doesn't even have a full term in the US
> > > Senate yet--and he's missing all these votes that he's
attacking
> > > Clinton on. That's not presidential...not at all.
> > >
> > > I've spoken to quite a few folks that I know...registered
> > Democrats.
> > > They have said they would vote McCain over Obama on the basis
of
> > > experience alone.
> > >
> > > --- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, "patrickgfrank"
<patrickgfrank@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ed,
> > > >
> > > > In my view, it does matter who is nominated in Denver. I will
> > > advocate
> > > > strongly for Barack Obama. I agree, it would be a tragedy if
we
> > > ended
> > > > up hating each other.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In Nebraska, The Omaha World-Herald reported that organizers
at
> > two
> > > > caucus sites had been so overrun by crowds that they abandoned
> > > > traditional caucusing and asked voters to drop makeshift
scrap-
> > paper
> > > > ballots into a box instead. In Sarpy County, in suburban
Omaha,
> > > > traffic backed up on Highway 370 when thousands of voters
showed
> > up
> > > at
> > > > a precinct where organizers had planned for hundreds.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This level of excitement should not be thrown away, and it is
> > > > primarily due to the inspiring candidacy of Barack Obama.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Patrick of SC
> > > >
> > > > --- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, Edward Hochman <eah01@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello. I write to say "Hello" and to say not that you don't
> > but
> > > > to say it looks like all here have their favorite and all
that is
> > > > going to happen in further exchange of Hillary is or Obama is
is
> > > what
> > > > happened yesterday; people getting unnecessarily upset. let
us
> > say
> > > we
> > > > should concentrate as Democrats for november. The Republicans
are
> > > > going to have a field day if we keep this bickering up. We
need
> > to
> > > > change administrations in November to Democrat. We don't need
> > > > President Hucklebee.
> > > > >
> > > > > ed
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > To: Dems2008@: patrickgfrank@: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 13:27:19
> > > > +0000Subject: [Dems2008] Re: [Democrats Online] Obama and the
> > Syrian
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Contrary to your statement, Obama is well qualified to be
> > > > president.He is not to the Right of Hillary; he does
emphasize
> > > working
> > > > with allParties to achieve results, something needed
desperately
> > in
> > > > ourfractured nation. He is highly intelligent, has wisdom,
> > > > iswell-informed on all of the issues. And he has his ego under
> > > > control.Some will complain that Obama is too far to the
Right.
> > Some
> > > > willcomplain that he is too far to the Left. The truth is
that he
> > > > iscapable of taking the best liberal and conservative ideas
and
> > > > meldingthem together. We need this kind of creative
> > thinking.Patrick
> > > > from SC--- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, "(Systems Operator)"
> > > <harry@>
> > > > wrote:>> Carol: Of course it was a typo. We all make them. As
for
> > > one
> > > > problemwith > Obama, I wish it was only one. He is completely
> > > > unqualified and has an > ideology which puts him to the right
of
> > > > Hillary. He is the worst choice > for democrats and I am
certain
> > the
> > > > Republicans will have enough onhim to > win again. And it
gets
> > > worse.
> > > > Read the investigation at theSun-Times and > don't forget one
of
> > the
> > > > best journalist/economicsts we have on the > progressive side,
> > > > Krugman. Read his analysis of the Obama plans forhealth >
care
> > and
> > > the
> > > > economy. All of a sudden Krugman is not credible?> > Hank
Roth> >
> > On
> > > > Sat, 9 Feb 2008, Carol Roberts wrote:> > > How does
one "confict"
> > > > Obama. Did you mean convict? If Obamaonly has> > one deep
pocket
> > in
> > > > his background that would be a relief compared to> > what
we're
> > > going
> > > > to go through if Hillary is the nominee. We will not> > only
have
> > to
> > > > relive all the stuff and nonsense of the 90's, but wewill> >
find
> > > out
> > > > in excruciating detail about how the Clinton's, who had no> >
> > money
> > > at
> > > > the time he left the presidency, have, in the past 7 years> >
> > > amassed
> > > > a net worth of about 30 million dollars. We are going to
hear> >
> > > about
> > > > every dime of it, and how it arrived in their various bank> >
> > > > accounts, count on it. So am I afraid of Obama's one guy, now
> > > injail,>
> > > > > who supported him a bit? NO....... bring it on.> >> >
Carol> >>
> > >
> > > > (Systems Operator) wrote:> >> You don't need DNA evidence to
> > confict
> > > > Obama.> >>
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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