19 Mart 2008 Çarşamba

[Dems2008] Re: The American Jew disconnect

nan, you raise many points (most of which I agree with), but my only
contrary comment would be that I believe (and I've made no secret of
this) that racism is one of the most-fundamental and critical issues
in this country, and one must have a higher level of tolerance for
racist speech and behavior to support Hillary Clinton.

As to your feeling about Muslims, I've noticed you have a tendency
like the rightwing talk show hosts to emphasize Barack's middle name,
or at least middle initial (BHO you will frequently write), but I
don't draw too much of an inference about your view on Muslims from
that. And I've made no study, and intend to make no study, of whether
your history of postings reflects an anti-Muslim bias.

--- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, nancy m gibson <nmgibson@...> wrote:
>
> First I admit I am a Zionist. This does not make me a racist.
> Why would I hate Muslims? I hate organization like the
> PLO, I hate suicide bombers who kill little innocent children.
> I also hate the fact that Palestinian children have been killed
> as well. I hate the fact that children in Afghanistan have
> been living in a hell ever since they were invaded by Russia,
> then the Taliban and now us. I hate what we have done in Iraq.
> Saddam Hussein was a terrible man, but under his rule they
> had good medical care, good education and women were treated
> better than most areas in the Middle East. At least from
> what I read in Ramsey Clark's book on Iraq. This does not
> take away from the many people who have been killed under
> the Baath party.
> I want Hillary for president so this makes me a racist, I have
> to prove I am not? This means I am prejudice against Muslims.
> I have to prove I am not. And who are you and Ci to tell
> me what I am or am not.--------------------Nan
>
> COULD A GREATER MIRACLE TAKE PLACE, THAN FOR US
> TO LOOK THROUGH EACH OTHERS EYES, FOR AN INSTANT.
> Henry David Thoreau
> >
> three facts that make this conversation unproductive.
>
> The Jewish community and the Black American community have a strange
> history sometimes intertwined for good, sometimes divided by evil.
> Both sides have been heroic and both sides carry sins of racism. I
> think I heard a speech about that recently.
>
> Nan cares deeply about her heritage and she feels its under attack.
> The question of Zionism, anti Semitism, and Racism within the
> Democratic party is one of those things we don't talk about. Ya
know I
> heard a speech about that too.
>
> Finally, and Nan you will take this as an offense, but Nan is
> prejudice against Muslims. And predjudice is something that can not
be
> negotiated with or reasoned with. It is a personal issue with
historic
> roots that should not be easily dismissed or denounced. It should be
> understood.
>
> Again I swear I heard a speech....
>

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