that Hillary would win the nomination hands down and that FL wouldn't
factor so heavily into the equation. If they had any idea that the
Democratic race would be so contested, they may have exercised a
little forethought.
--- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, Edward Hochman <eah01@...> wrote:
>
> easy to say if you are a majority party in the state; in florida,
Democrats are a gerrymandered few. Don't believe me? I did not
understand untill I saw how the state house districts were layed
out. A republican paradise.
>
> ed
>
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> To: Dems2008@...: Eamon1916@...: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 18:23:08 -
0800Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Re: Fascinating
>
>
>
>
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> Florida didn't have to have the primary decide their delegates...
Florida Democrats could have held their own primary or their own
caucuses at a later time and had the 1/29 primary be a non-binding
primary.The fact of the matter is that the Florida Democratc Central
Committee voted UNANIMOUSLY to go ahead and hold the binding primary
on 1/29 even though they knew that their delegates would be
stripped.If Florida had said to the DNC, "Look I know you said we
can't have our primary before 2/5, but the Republican Legislature
moved it to 1/29... we'd like to have a caucus on a later date but
we're not sure we can afford it... can you help us out?" If I were
Dean I would have said "I understand, let's see if we can help you
out there..."But no. They said "Screw it... we're holding it
anyways. Yeah we're going to lose our delegates, but we're doing it
on 1/29 anyways."They had plenty of opportunity to make other plans,
they chose not to.
>
> Slainte,
> Rob Harrington
>
> ----- Original Message ----From: Edward Hochman <eah01@...>To:
dems2008@...: Thursday, March 6, 2008 9:12:05 PMSubject: RE:
[Dems2008] Re: FascinatingLet us be rational about the matter. I
can't speak for Michigan; I live in Florida. The story I heard was
that the bill that had us voting on Jan 29th had two parts to the
bill- one the election date and the other a provision for new voting
machines that included a paper trail. The republican majority in
both houses refused to separate the bills and if they wanted new
machines the who bill would have to be passed as such. An effort was
made but was futile since the overwhelming majority of both houses
were republicans. The republicans knew that this would be a good way
to embarrass Democrats as well. by their RNC only cutting their
delegates in half, they could divert people's attention from their
attempts to disenfranchise people who wouldn't vote for them by
pointing out how Democrats could disenfranchise their voters. Think
for a moment, the difference in time was only a week- Feb 5th. To
penalize florida this way for just the matter of one week's
difference, this was extreme. and the DNC fell into their trap.
Other ramifications- we are getting info on the candidates through
debates nationally conducted, opinions from Rush and Glenn Beck and
the few of us that get Air America are really lucky. Do we really
know the candidates. I can't say that I do. ed
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> To: Dems2008@...: carolroberts1@...: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:21:50 -
0800Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Re: Fascinating
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>
> Why should anyone be concerned other than those Democrats who live,
and want to vote, in Michigan and Florida? They have plenty of time
to do a caucus thing, or even arrange to pay for a private Democratic
primary do-over. The insanity was breaking the rules in the first
place and expecting not to have consequences attach. If you forbid
your 4 year old child to play with matches, do you then say "oh,
that's ok" when the child does the forbidden thing? If so, start
saving your money for those pesky ole defense
lawyers.Carolraschueller wrote:> > > How do you think that PA will
settle this? Its delegates can't put> anyone over the top. (Unless
Obama sweeps but then again he will need> somewhere around 90% of ALL
pledged delegates left to seal the> nomination) What I am more
concerned about is the insanity of redoing> michigan and Florida.
What I can't believe is Dean is embracing this> idea. Surely that
concerns you.>
>
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