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In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, Rob Harrington <Eamon1916@...> wrote:
>
> BELIEVE ME.... I understand what it's like to be in the minority
party... I'm a freakin' Democrat in Indiana for God's sake.
>
> But the Florida Democratic Party VOTED UNANIMOUSLY to have their
binding primary on 1/29 in direct violation of the DNC rules and in
full knowledge that their delegates would be stripped. They could
have chosen to have a caucus or other method of selecting delegates
at a later date. They chose not to.
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> Now they have to live with that decision.
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> Slainte,
> Rob Harrington
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Edward Hochman <eah01@...>
> To: dems2008@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 9:36:15 PM
> Subject: RE: [Dems2008] Re: Fascinating
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> easy to say if you are a majority party in the state; in florida,
Democrats are a gerrymandered few. Don't believe me? I did not
understand untill I saw how the state house districts were layed
out. A republican paradise.
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> ed
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> To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
> From: Eamon1916@...
> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 18:23:08 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Re: Fascinating
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> Florida didn't have to have the primary decide their delegates...
Florida Democrats could have held their own primary or their own
caucuses at a later time and had the 1/29 primary be a non-binding
primary.
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> The fact of the matter is that the Florida Democratc Central
Committee voted UNANIMOUSLY to go ahead and hold the binding primary
on 1/29 even though they knew that their delegates would be stripped.
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> If Florida had said to the DNC, "Look I know you said we can't have
our primary before 2/5, but the Republican Legislature moved it to
1/29... we'd like to have a caucus on a later date but we're not sure
we can afford it... can you help us out?" If I were Dean I would
have said "I understand, let's see if we can help you out there..."
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> But no. They said "Screw it... we're holding it anyways. Yeah
we're going to lose our delegates, but we're doing it on 1/29
anyways."
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> They had plenty of opportunity to make other plans, they chose not
to.
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> Slainte,
> Rob Harrington
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Edward Hochman <eah01@...>
> To: dems2008@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2008 9:12:05 PM
> Subject: RE: [Dems2008] Re: Fascinating
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> Let us be rational about the matter. I can't speak for Michigan; I
live in Florida. The story I heard was that the bill that had us
voting on Jan 29th had two parts to the bill- one the election date
and the other a provision for new voting machines that included a
paper trail. The republican majority in both houses refused to
separate the bills and if they wanted new machines the who bill would
have to be passed as such. An effort was made but was futile since
the overwhelming majority of both houses were republicans. The
republicans knew that this would be a good way to embarrass Democrats
as well. by their RNC only cutting their delegates in half, they
could divert people's attention from their attempts to disenfranchise
people who wouldn't vote for them by pointing out how Democrats could
disenfranchise their voters. Think for a moment, the difference in
time was only a week- Feb 5th. To penalize florida this way for just
the matter of one
> week's difference, this was extreme. and the DNC fell into their
trap. Other ramifications- we are getting info on the candidates
through debates nationally conducted, opinions from Rush and Glenn
Beck and the few of us that get Air America are really lucky. Do we
really know the candidates. I can't say that I do.
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> ed
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> To: Dems2008@yahoogroup s.com
> From: carolroberts1@ verizon.net
> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2008 17:21:50 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Re: Fascinating
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> Why should anyone be concerned other than those Democrats who live,
and
> want to vote, in Michigan and Florida? They have plenty of time to
do a
> caucus thing, or even arrange to pay for a private Democratic
primary
> do-over. The insanity was breaking the rules in the first place and
> expecting not to have consequences attach. If you forbid your 4
year
> old child to play with matches, do you then say "oh, that's ok"
when the
> child does the forbidden thing? If so, start saving your money for
> those pesky ole defense lawyers.
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> Carol
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> raschueller wrote:
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> > How do you think that PA will settle this? Its delegates can't put
> > anyone over the top. (Unless Obama sweeps but then again he will
need
> > somewhere around 90% of ALL pledged delegates left to seal the
> > nomination) What I am more concerned about is the insanity of
redoing
> > michigan and Florida. What I can't believe is Dean is embracing
this
> > idea. Surely that concerns you.
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