[Dems2008] Re: Loving v. Virginia (1967)

Mark:

• sensibly and wisely put
• I believe earnestly that in my lifetime (and I'm in my 60s) same-gender marriage will be commonplace; call me a dreamer
• You are correct:  first things first -- even if the religious right retains its monopoly on the term "marriage," one by one we have to extend to same-gender unions the rights enjoyed by hetero couples
• whether a president will move public sentiment, or whether public sentiment must shift first is a difficult question, but one by one folks who can should stand up and be heard, and one by one rights of marriage should be extended to whatever we call the identical legal obligation covering gays and lesbians

--- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, Mark^o^ <smiledaydream@...> wrote:
>
> I know I have not proposed a candidate needs to use the word marriage.
> That is a losing proposition.
>
> I think both Hillary and Barack are far more evolved than most
> Democrats and either will do what is necessary to move us in the
> direction of equality. The first step they both already agree on,
> stated full equality with other terminology. Once that happens, the
> obvious lack of damage will make it silly to keep retaining the word.
>
> But first things first.
> Elect Democrats.
> Get a moderate or liberal supreme court.
> Change public opinion.
> Rule that separate must be equal. (Sound familiar?)
>
> All part of progress.
>
> I assume we are open to discuss issues that are Democratic and not just
> about our great candidates.
>
>
> --- raschueller raschueller@... wrote:
>
> > --- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, nancy m gibson nmgibson@ wrote:
> > >
> > > This is a ridiculous debate.
> >
> > Nancy the POINT of this discussion is that there are certain issues
> > that no matter how dear, do not serve a candidate well to speak
> > about.
> > They are loosing issues.
>
> = M =
> owner of significant cat
>

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