suzi meyers <libertylsmom@yahoo.com> wrote:
I have also seen pictures, and read that he didn't put his hand over his heart during the star spangled banner. His pastor is a biggie too! Obama blogged today that he is his spiritual advisor, not political advisor. Come on, that's seems really off to me. Spiritual beliefs are just too fundamental in who you are as a person. As for Mrs. Obama, she gave the "For the first time in my adult life I am proud of my country" speech, and then two hours later admended it in the next speech given to "For the first time in my adult life I am REALLY proud" I don't like it a damn bit. I really gotta have someone who is spiritual about this country of ours. It just scares the hell out of me to think where it could lead...
subana <dem0kie@att.net> wrote:ok, so I got the phrase wrong.......
But that still does not mean she has never been proud of their country
before.
----- Original Message -----
From: "isabelle" <isabelle_ms@yahoo.com >
To: <Dems2008@yahoogroups.com >
Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Dems2008] ENOUGH OF THIS!
> That's not what she said. She said for the first time
> in her adult life she was really proud of her country.
> She didn't say really proud of the changes. Don't
> try to rewrite history, because it's in video form on
> YouTube. She has an Ivy League education and she's a
> lawyer, and you don't think she can verbalize properly
> what she means? It has become obviously clear what
> she meant. I'm sick of this parcing when it comes to
> Obama but bashing when it comes to the Clintons.
> ENOUGH OF THIS is right!
>
>
> --- subana <dem0kie@att.net > wrote:
>
>> you mean because she said 'for the first time in her
>> life she was really
>> proud of the changes in this country'?
>>
>> Clearly, she should have said it differently but I
>> don't think she meant to
>> say that she had never been proud before. She
>> simply meant that she had not
>> been filled with this level of pride until now.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "isabelle" <isabelle_ms@yahoo.com >
>> To: <Dems2008@yahoogroups.com >
>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 7:21 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Dems2008] ENOUGH OF THIS!
>>
>>
>> > His wife seems pretty unpatriotic to me.
>> >
>> >
>> > --- subana <dem0kie@att.net > wrote:
>> >
>> >> so what exactly do you see as a lack of
>> patriotism
>> >> in Obama? I am asking sincerely because I have
>> not
>> >> seen any of that.
>> >>
>> >> Do you think he is unpatriotic because he refuses
>> to
>> >> wear a flag pin?
>> >>
>> >> Personally, I think you show patriotism by doing
>> >> what is best for the country. Any idiot can wear
>> a
>> >> flag pin but that doesn't mean they're patriotic,
>> it
>> >> just means they are using the issue of patriotism
>> to
>> >> promote their propoganda.......
>> >>
>> >> And also, I don't think the republicans want
>> Obama
>> >> to be the nominee. I think they can win much
>> easier
>> >> against Hillary. Many republicans have been
>> >> crossing over to vote for Hillary for just that
>> >> reason.......they want to run against her.
>> They've
>> >> got years of dirt on the Clintons and it would be
>> >> very easy to drag all of that junk out of the
>> closet
>> >> and use it again. They don't have that much dirt
>> on
>> >> Obama...
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: suzi meyers
>> >> To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
>> >> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 9:38 AM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Dems2008] ENOUGH OF THIS!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> I have been asking myself that very question.
>> Am
>> >> I a racist because I have seen truth in
>> statements
>> >> that people cry are racist? I am from the south,
>> so
>> >> perhaps it's so deeply engrained that I cannot
>> >> detect it while others can?! I am sincerly
>> >> searching here. I BEG any responses contain some
>> >> tact and understanding because things will never
>> get
>> >> better for any of us if conversations are riddled
>> >> with venom and hatred from any side. Honesty is
>> >> painful, but it should not be damning. Will the
>> >> status quo lose all if Barrack is elected? Or
>> will
>> >> he truly be a change maker and represent all
>> colors
>> >> of the rainbow? I still have serious concerns
>> over
>> >> his lack of patriotism. Please help me rectify
>> >> this. I have thought and thought and still
>> cannot
>> >> come up with reasoning to excuse this. Can
>> anyone
>> >> kindly explain this away? I support Hillary, but
>> >> want to be a true Democrat and vote for whomever
>> is
>> >> the nominee. Please provide tangiable points
>> >> without the rhetoric of hope and change. I am
>> >> trying so hard to see both sides. I need a
>> little
>> >> help from my Democratic Family here. I and many
>> >> others are SINCERLY searching. These questions
>> are
>> >> all asked from the depths of my heart to yours.
>> I
>> >> have meant no malice and pray there is none to be
>> >> found. Please help us all come together. I
>> offer
>> >> my hand in unity.
>> >>
>> >> raschueller <raschueller@yahoo.com > wrote:
>> >> I can understand wanting to win a nomination.
>> I
>> >> can not understand
>> >> this. BOTH candidates need to stand side by
>> side
>> >> and end this now.
>> >> EACH individual needs to stand up and say NO
>> >> MORE. I read one persons
>> >> comments that all of this proves why the
>> >> Republicans wanted Obama in
>> >> the first place. SHAMEFUL. Sickening.
>> Pathetic.
>> >> October surprise and
>> >> swiftboating... Hannity said... Rush said...
>> >>
>> >> Well I say kiss my ass.
>> >>
>> >> I thought I belonged to a party that saw
>> beyond
>> >> race. Apparently I was
>> >> wrong. I sort of expect stupidity and bigotry
>> to
>> >> be the fare of the
>> >> small percent that represent the WORST of the
>> >> Republican party, but
>> >> when I find it within the party that I have
>> >> worked so hard for... I am
>> >> disgusted. We act like we are a higher
>> species
>> >> of animal than those
>> >> who think in racial terms... I guess we are
>> all
>> >> feeding from the same
>> >> trough.
>> >>
>> >> Instead of fighting against the very worst
>> >> society has to offer, we
>> >> embrace it. Across the board I would expect
>> >> every decent person to
>> >> denounce this stupidity. But no... its a
>> >> campaign slogan. MY GOD. I
>> >> would rather loose this damn election and
>> every
>> >> election after that if
>> >> we allow racists and idiots pick our
>> candidates
>> >> for us. To those
>> >> people that listen to people like Hannity and
>> >> Rush and worry about a
>> >> candidate being "swiftboated", you get what
>> you
>> >> deserve.
>> >>
>> >> Here is a news flash. Kerry didn't loose
>> because
>> >> of some idiot and a
>> >> swiftboat advertisement. He lost because he
>> >> sucked ass as a candidate.
>> >> PERIOD. But you people are too stupid and
>> close
>> >> minded to see it.
>> >> Whats worse is those who say Obama is black
>> and
>> >> white people will
>> >> never vote a black man for president... so we
>> >> better choose a white
>> >> candidate. THINK ABOUT THAT. Think long and
>> >> hard. Look yourself in the
>> >> mirror. Read Jericho Road. Read about the
>> civil
>> >> rights movements in
>> >> the 50's. Where would you stand.
>> >>
>> >> In a group that I am sure prides itself on
>> its
>> >> wisdom and forward
>> >> thinking for the dialogue to be dominated by
>> >> crap like this shows how
>> >> small minded and pathetic we really are.
>> >>
>> >> If you see this election in terms of Black
>> and
>> >> White... or for that
>> >> matter male and female ... think about what
>> that
>> >> says about yourself.
>> >>
>> >> Say to yourself over and over ... I am not a
>> >> racist. Say it enough and
>> >> you will believe it. But no matter how much
>> you
>> >> say it won't make it true.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
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