It is a sobering injustice and I wish we had an easy answer for injustice towards all people. I know that sooner or later we really have to deal as Americans with the social inequities that have split our society. I really think that sometimes we are too focused on the candidates and not enough of what should be done for all americans in this nation.
ed
From: citation502 <citation502@yahoo.com>
To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 11:38:14 PM
Subject: [Dems2008] Re: The American Jew disconnect
Ed, I think we are on the same page.
- I most definitely do NOT in any way diminish the Holocaust. In fact, I consider it not just the Jews' problem; it is ALL OUR problem and issue. Each non-Jew is diminished by that episode in humankind.
- Nor do I (and this what part of my original point) offer some DISTINCTION between 140 years of enslavement followed by lynchings, on the one hand, and extermination on the other. Both are so far beyond acceptable human behavior toward others as to be EQUALLY condemned.
- As to BOTH, the poem applies equally:
I remained silent;
I was not a communist.
When they locked up the social democrats,
I remained silent;
I was not a social democrat.
When they came for the trade unionists,
I did not speak out;
I was not a trade unionist.
When they came for the Jews,
I remained silent;
I wasn't a Jew.
When they came for me,
there was no one left to speak out.
--- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, Edward Hochman <whovian7_2000@...> wrote:
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> have never had their history stripped clean from them; nor their name; family back ground, history; religion, and family!
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> this has happened to Jews, not in the same manner it was done to black people but it did happen throughout history in many ways. This is not to ignore our 300 year old shame and we should recognize the inequity of the situation even today. slavery and its aftereffects need to be recognized in this nation as we are still trying to cope with it.
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> ed
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: sharon payne phairdesigner45@...
> To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:19:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dems2008] The American Jew disconnect
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> Alright,alright! Jews and Blacks have gone through a lot but, Black still are going through this situation til this day. My son's God father is Jewish, so leave that be. Jews have never had their history stripped clean from them; nor their name; family back ground, history; religion, and family! Blacks were brought here against their will, told to do the work of someone whom was call their Master. Raped from everything, including female pride and males studded for profit. Given food less for a dog and told to love it. Sold from families and separated from parents, children, husbands and wives. Scared be on belief and raped some more as a bed warmer for master or the undertaker. Have children in the fields and still told to go to work. We were sold just like cattle and not able to be read as that was not for monkey's to learn. All nationalities had us as slaves, except the American Indians.
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> I found out when my grandfather died that he was a true Indian by my uncles. My grandfather during WWI had senses document him as black against the dismay of his Mother and Father and my aunts and uncles, whom stated they were Indians. I found out that he did this because American Indians were even less than blacks and for him to go to College, he had to tell them he was Black.
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> We all have stories to tell, but when do we get past all the divide and move on. Our children and their children are counting on us. So we as Americans must make a chose, to get along or continue the hate they want us to continue. The world will never get along until we do.
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> Remember we all come from Adam and Eve and all our ancestor come from out of Africa, so actually we are brother and sisters.
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> When we bleed we bleed red and we all get sick and we all can donate to one another and we all die the same way alone.
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> ----- Original Message ----
> From: nancy m gibson nmgibson@...
> To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:28:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dems2008] The American Jew disconnect
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> Excuse me but I don't think any people have cared more about what A.A.'s
> have gone through than the Jewish people. I find your post to be very
> out of line. But after all Mr know it all WASP what more can I expect
> from you.-------- --------- - Nan
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> COULD A GREATER MIRACLE TAKE PLACE, THAN FOR US
> TO LOOK THROUGH EACH OTHERS EYES, FOR AN INSTANT.
> Henry David Thoreau
> My Jewish friends have told me for years that anyone who lives with a memory of the atrocities of the Holocaust in their background and heritage will forever feel more vulnerable than those who do not. And I accept and believe that. The atrocities of the Holocaust are almost incalculable, too horrific in quality and dimensions to be measured or fully appreciated by any of us. What I find curious, however, is the SELECTIVITY of the American Jew when it comes to that feeling of vulnerability. There's a wide disconnect between the American Jew who rightly feels that vulnerability and their dismissive attitude toward the vulnerability that American blacks still feel today. The Holocaust took place half a world away. Slavery, Jim Crow, lynching, marginalization, substandard segregated schools, literacy test and poll taxes to vote took place right here in OUR states and communities. The Holocaust took place more than sixty years ago. The German shepherds
> and fire hoses turned on blacks in our own country occurred while many of us were alive......just over forty years ago. The Holocaust was the creation of persons living in other countries, speaking an entirely different language, and following the teachings of political parties rarely known in this country. 350 years of slavery, Jim Crow, continuing prejudice, continuing disparities in educational and job opportunity, continuing disparities in treatment by the criminal justice system took place, and take place, RIGHT HERE in the U.S. So when a U.S. Jew tells me that s/he lives with an indelible fear or vulnerability inherited from the fact of the Holocaust, but at the same time dismisses the vulnerability that may be felt by an African American whose cousins were fire-hosed, harassed and lynched right here in America, I wonder whether we don't just have a very egotistical form of victimology.
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