Re: [Dems2008] Re: Atlas Shrugged

Um...  Libertarianism DID work in this country for the first 150 years or so.  It's since we've moved away from the Constitution, which is very Libertarian in its nature, that we've run into trouble.

Ayn Rand's idea, Randism, and Libertarianism as well, are based around the same ideas that Capitalism are based around and we are a Capitalist country.  What's the other option?  Communism!  So if you don't want to live in a country like that what you're really saying, rather you realize it or not, is that you want to live in a country run by Communists.  A country where everyone is looked at as a whole, in groups, and not individually.  Where there's no property and therefore no rights.  Where you hear things like "common good," but everyone is suffering.

That's not the country I want to live in.

Further, Ayn Rand's ideas were based around the concept of individualism.  The Founders of our country also based it around the concept of individualism.  All rights found in the Constitution are individual rights for a reason.  The opposite to this thinking is collectivism, which is Communist thinking.

So when you say that you say "every man for himself kind of thing" what you're actually referring to is individualism and when you say you "don't want to live in a country run by people like that" what you're doing is rejecting individualism, which is what this country was founded on.  The other options, are again, collectivism and Communism, which go hand-in-hand, and surely you don't want that?

isabelle <isabelle_ms@yahoo.com> wrote:

I've heard people on the Thom Hartmann show from the
Ayn Rand Institute, and they seem like an every man
for himself kind of thing. I don't want to live in a
country that's run by people like that.
Libertarianism would never work in this country.

--- Garland Ragland <raglangr@yahoo.com> wrote:

> She actually rejected Libertarianism, even though
> her views were very Libertarian.
>
> raschueller <raschueller@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com,
> nancy m gibson <nmgibson@...> wrote:
> >
> > It's suffice to say Ayn Rand believed in
> classical
> > liberal traditions with emphasis upon
> individualism.
> > She has been claimed by the Libertarian party.
> > But IMHO she was not a true Libertarian.
> > I admire the lady.-------------Nan
> >
> Good lord. Want someone to admire admire Maggie
> Kuhn rather than a
> right wing nutjob.
>
>
>
>
>

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