in them and they will do the same thing with Obama,
except it will be the black thing or the muslim thing
or whatever else it is that generates that particular
brand of stupidity. They are demoralized now because
of the war and the economy and not liking McCain
because he's a liberal communist or whatever, but mark
my words, they will vote for him in droves against
Obama, probably more so than Clinton because they are
haters...that's what they do.
--- Natasha <objection21@yahoo.com> wrote:
> I agree with that, it wasn't the Clinton's fault;
> they really did
> have a noble cause...to change the way things were
> done in
> Washington. All I'm saying is that the Clintons
> bring out this
> lethal venom in the Republican party, moreso than
> any recent
> candidates. McCain's strategy will be to keep
> allowing the talking
> heads of the right wing to bash obama and then
> openly condemn them,
> while benefitting from those comments. It hasn't
> worked for Hillary,
> but if he's the nominee it will work with
> republicans.
>
> --- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, isabelle
> <isabelle_ms@...> wrote:
> >
> > Natasha, I would agree with you except that people
> > assume the Clintons caused the entire problem.
> The
> > republicans may give Obama a honeymoon period
> until
> > they figure out how to go after him, but it won't
> last
> > because they have no interest in bi-partisanship.
> The
> > Newt Gingrich/Tom Delay followers of the
> republican
> > party are not going to play nice if a saint was
> > president. I do think that so far Obama has been
> able
> > to give it right back, but alot of that is because
> > whatever anyone may think, the Clintons won't try
> to
> > ruin him in case he is the nominee. I want to see
> > what happens on Tuesday because it could well be
> over.
> > If Hillary continues to win the bigger states,
> then I
> > think the DNC needs to behave like it's convention
> > time, sit them both down and get this thing worked
> > out. It's pretty obvious watching them over the
> > weekend that they are tired. This pace is crazy
> and I
> > don't know how they do it. I'm tired too.
> >
> >
> > --- Natasha <objection21@...> wrote:
> >
> > > The longer this race continues, the worse it is
> for
> > > the Democratic
> > > nominee. McCain has virtually solidified the
> > > Republican nomination,
> > > which leaves him all by himself lobbing
> criticisms
> > > at Obama (the
> > > likely nominee) in hopes of helping Clinton
> drive up
> > > his negatives,
> > > thus securing his seat in the Oval Office.
> > >
> > > Clinton would make a fine President, except we
> > > already know how the
> > > Republicans behave when a Clinton is in office.
> > > Forget if you like
> > > Hillary because she's a woman, a Clinton, or a
> > > Senator; can this
> > > country really afford to be distracted with what
> > > Bill and Hill "may
> > > or may not have been doing" since they left the
> > > White House? The
> > > fact is that even if there's no dirt on the
> Clintons
> > > since leaving
> > > the White House, that will dominate the
> Republican
> > > agenda and any
> > > measure President Clinton would try to pass
> would be
> > > stalled while
> > > they come up with something else to distract the
> > > American people from
> > > the issues that plague them. It happened once
> > > before; those of you
> > > who are old enough (I was but a young lass)to
> really
> > > remember the
> > > Clinton years think back to how much distraction
> > > there was.
> > >
> > > Bill was a great politician with charisma that
> could
> > > (mostly)
> > > withstand that, but I'm not sure that Hillary
> could.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, "raschueller"
> > > <raschueller@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Right now the most pressing issue in our party
> is
> > > the nomination
> > > > process. And behind that nomination process
> there
> > > is an ongoing
> > > battle
> > > > for the party. While YES talking issues is
> > > wonderful, but its a bit
> > > > like having a tea party while there is a giant
> > > elephant in the room.
> > > >
> > > > You have two camps and an ONGOING decision to
> be
> > > made as to who the
> > > > next nominee is. Unfortunately this process is
> NOT
> > > going to be about
> > > > issues because on issues there is no
> difference
> > > and for Hillary to
> > > win
> > > > she must keep the election close and
> deadlocked
> > > (the only way she
> > > does
> > > > that is by driving up Baraks negatives). I
> said a
> > > while back that
> > > this
> > > > nomination process was going to turn ugly, and
> was
> > > it worth it.
> > > > Further at what point would it no longer be
> worth
> > > it. No one has an
> > > > answer because you have a messed up system and
> a
> > > candidate that, for
> > > > better or worse, will not give up. Many of us
> > > involved in this
> > > debate
> > > > could easily support either candidate because
> our
> > > original choices
> > > are
> > > > gone. BUT... what we are debating is whether
> this
> > > race should
> > > > continue, and whether Barak could make a
> viable
> > > candidate, and
> > > whether
> > > > Hillary has a chance and whether that chance
> comes
> > > with too high a
> > > price.
> > > >
> > > > While I think it would be nice if this process
> is
> > > over, until it is
> > > we
> > > > are fools to pretend it is not.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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