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Re: [Dems2008] Re: E.J. Dionne, Jr. -- The Last "Yes, We Can" Candidate

Reagan also tried to bust up the unions and gave us
cheese lines. Pope John Paul, II was also a major
factor in bringing down the Soviet Union. I wish
everybody would stop comparing Obama to a bunch of
dead guys, especially the assaniated ones...it freaks
me out.


--- Eric Koszyk <e_koszyk@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Wonderful. So the Obama fans want to compare him to
> Reagan? Unbelievable! Reagan was a complete
> disaster.
> And no, he was not ready to be president.
>
> Let's see-- he ushered in a new era of conservatism,
> a
> conservatism that blamed everyone else for the
> mistakes it made. The national deficit ballooned
> under Reagan as did the notion that it was no big
> deal. And if someone was to blame it wasn't tax cuts
> or increased military spending, it was those welfare
> moms by golly!
>
> He also brought in the notion that all government is
> bad, all taxes are bad. Well now we are seeing the
> result of this philosophy of government -- our
> bridges
> are collapsing from underneath us. Let's privatize
> everything, including our military!
>
> And do you think our skies are safer? Wasn't it
> great
> that Reagan, who campaigned with the promise of
> listening to the concerns of the nation's air
> traffic
> controller's instead fired them all? Yes that made
> us
> all much safer.
>
> Let's see -- what else did Reagan give us?
>
> Our government supporting right wing death squads in
> Central America. As long as they're not commies....
>
> wasteful spending, especially at the Pentagon. $100
> screws and all.
>
> ketchup as a vegetable.
>
> He was probably senile his last years in office, or
> worst.
>
> Please, for all of the love for Reagan from right
> wingers, he was not that affective as a President.
>
> Oh and before you respond by saying he toppled the
> Soviet Union, that is just more right wing BS. Ever
> hear of Gorbachev? The USSR would have eventually
> fallen anyway -- it was a corrupt system to begin
> with. We didn't have to spend ourselves into mass
> amounts of debt, start the arms race anew and help
> death squads around the world to make it happen.
>
> So Obama folks, please stop trying to compare your
> guy
> to Reagan. It does you no good with Democratic
> activists -- you know the people you will need to go
> knock on doors this fall.
>
> --- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, Citation
> <citation502@...> wrote:
> >
> > The Last 'Yes, We Can' Candidate
> > By E. J. Dionne Jr.
> > Friday, February 29, 2008; A19
> > Barack Obama's critics bear a remarkable
> resemblance to the liberals who labored mightily to
> dismiss Ronald Reagan in 1980.
> > Reagan's foes wrote him off as a right-wing
> former
> actor who amiably spouted conservative bromides and
> must have been engaged in some sort of Hollywood
> flimflam.
> > Like Reagan's enemies, Obama's opponents concede
> that he gives a great speech. Indeed, both Obama and
> Reagan came to wide attention because of a single
> oration that offered hope in the midst of a losing
> campaign -- Obama's 2004 keynote to the Democratic
> National Convention and Reagan's 1964 "A Time for
> Choosing" address delivered on behalf of Barry
> Goldwater. But surely speeches aren't enough, are
> they?
>
>
>
>
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