Re: [Dems2008] Re: ENOUGH OF THIS!

And sometimes being born female and raised in a
society where people strive to overcome the rascism of
the past, you recognize bull**** when you hear it. I
guess you're a psychologist now too. Sometimes it
just is what it is.

--- citation502 <citation502@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> Suzi
>
>
>
> When one thinks about things like racism or sexism,
> you have to think
> about there being at least two levels to the
> inquiry.
>
>
>
> Each of us is socialized or conditioned (whether by
> nurture or
> otherwise) to feel and think in certain ways.
> Being raised in a deeply
> racist community, family or other environment can
> give one some
> ingrained attitudes of which the person may not even
> be consciously
> aware.
>
>
>
> And, although depending on our abilities, we can to
> some degree or
> another CONTROL how that conditioning manifests
> itself in actual speech
> or conduct, I'm not sure those basic instincts can
> ever fully leave
> us. We are each a product of all we've experienced
> (and more), and
> I'm not sure we can at that subconscious level do
> much more than
> just try to aggregate COUNTER-tendencies.
>
>
>
> But, at another level, there is our overt conduct
> and speech and
> actions over which we have some control, and about
> which we can make
> individual choices. That level, it seems to me, is
> where blame or
> credit should be placed when racist or sexist
> conduct or speech emerges.
>
>
>
> As to Ferrarro, I don't know whether (this is my
> wife's theory
> on the matter) that she was not just showing her
> underlying conditioning
> and attitudes in a moment where she let her guard
> down, or whether she
> was making an overt choice to assist the Clintons in
> a racist
> Pennsylvania strategy.
>
>
> I suppose the answer is most likely BOTH.
>

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