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From: worldpeacesoon <berts420@yahoo.com>
To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:01:21 PM
Subject: [Dems2008] Re: WHICH IS WORSE ?????
I'm not sure what you heard, but there was nothing treasonous. Much of what Rev Wright
said is the platform of the democratic party, he was just animated about it. As for anti
american statements, we have a lot of blood on our hands....get over the Wright issue, he
is a preacher not a politician, Obama is running, not Wright.......Obama's church has many
good aspects; helping homeless, drug programs, employment programs, skills training,
etc...., and you Hillary supporters continue to rip Obama for something he has denounced
and trash a church that has picked up the slack during the past eight years. You sound
like a republican. You are making a big deal out of something Obama has addressed and
clarified his position on. Go to youtube.com if you missed the speech
I know I have talked some trash about Bush, am I anti-american? Grow up buddy, we live
in america....people have talked trash about the US for years....we have freedom of speech
in this country.
--- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, "putmy2centsin" <dude243@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hillary not remembering an event properly?
>
> Or
>
> Obama listening to and supporting a traitor and racist for 20 years?
>
>
>
> Get over it. She screwed up. She's human. You got 4 miserable years from
> George Bush and what did you do? You rewarded him with another 4
> stinking years. Believe all the propaganda you want because most of you
> suck it in like a vacum cleaner anyway. If it was the middle of the
> afternoon and Obama told you that it was the middle of the night you'd
> believe him. You're so easy it's pathetic. Obama listens to his reverend
> cut our country down and you think that it's ok. Well, it's not ok. It's
> treasonous and in another time period he would have been hung and not
> because he was a person of color but because it was treasonous.
> Treason From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason#column-one> , search
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason#searchInput> For other uses, see
> Treason (disambiguation)
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason_%28disambiguation%29> or Traitor
> (disambiguation)
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traitor_%28disambiguation%29> . Crimes
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime>
> [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/0e/Scale_of_justi\
> ce_2.svg/50px-Scale_of_justice_2.svg.png]
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Scale_of_justice_2.svg>
> In law <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law> , treason is the crime
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime> that covers some of the more
> serious acts of disloyalty <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loyalty> to
> one's sovereign <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign> or nation
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation> . Historically, treason also
> covered the murder of specific social superiors, such as the murder of a
> husband by his wife (treason against the king was known as high treason
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_treason> and treason against a
> lesser superior was petit treason
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petty_treason> ). A person who commits
> treason is known as a traitor.
>
> Oran's Dictionary of the Law
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Oran%27s_Dictionary_of_the_La\
> w&action=edit&redlink=1> (1983) defines treason as: "...[a]...citizen's
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizenship> actions to help a foreign
> government <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government> overthrow, make
> war <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War> against, or seriously injure the
> [parent nation]." In many nations, it is also often considered treason
> to attempt or conspire to overthrow the government, even if no foreign
> country is aided or involved by such an endeavour.
>
> Outside legal spheres, the word "traitor" may also be used a person who
> betrays <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betrayal> (or is accused of
> betraying) their own political party
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_party> , nation
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation> , family
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family> , friends
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friend> , ethnic group
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_group> , religion
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion> , social class
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_class> , or other group to which
> they may belong. Often, such accusations are controversial and disputed,
> as the person may not identify with the group of which they are a
> member, or may otherwise disagree with the group leaders making the
> charge. See, for example, race traitor
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_traitor> .
>
> At times, the term "traitor" has been levelled as a political epithet
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epithet> , regardless of any verifiable
> treasonable action. In a civil war
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_war> or insurrection
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurrection> , the winners may deem the
> losers to be traitors. Likewise the term "traitor" is used in heated
> political discussion – typically as a slur
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slur> against political dissidents
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_dissent> , or against officials
> in power who are perceived as failing to act in the best interest of
> their constituents. In certain cases, as with the German
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germany> Dolchstoßlegende
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolchsto%C3%9Flegende> , the accusation of
> treason towards a large group of people can be a unifying political
> message.
>
> Murder is now generally considered the worst of crimes, but in the past,
> treason was thought of as worse. In English law
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_law> high treason
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_treason> was punishable by being
> hanged, drawn and quartered
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanged%2C_drawn_and_quartered> (men) or
> burnt at the stake <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_by_burning>
> (women), the only crime which attracted those penalties (until the
> Treason Act 1814 <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason_Act_1814> ). The
> penalty was used by later monarchs against people who could reasonably
> be called traitors, although most modern jurists would call it
> excessive. Many of them would now just be considered dissidents
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissident> .
>
> In Shakespeare <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shakespeare> 's play King
> Lear <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Lear> (c. 1600), when the King
> learns that his daughter Regan <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regan> has
> publicly dishonoured him, he says They could not, would not do 't; 'tis
> worse than murder: a conventional attitude at that time. In Dante
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dante> 's Inferno
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Divine_Comedy> , the lowest circles of
> Hell <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hell> are reserved for traitors;
> Judas <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas_Iscariot> , who betrayed Jesus
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus> in Christian theology
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_theology> , suffers the worst
> torments of all. His treachery is in fact so notorious that his name has
> long been synonymous with traitor, a fate he shares with Benedict Arnold
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benedict_Arnold> , Brutus
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcus_Junius_Brutus> , and Quisling
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidkun_Quisling> .
>
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