We are right (but ineffectual) on the war in Iraq (which you say is
of no concern to you).
We are right on choice, healthcare, involvement with the rest of the
world, judicial appointments, and tax relief for the middle class.
JUST WHICH party is it to whom you will go if we don't improve on the
foregoing?
I sense you are a Republican lurking in a Democrats group.
--- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, kay noeth <kaynoeth@...> wrote:
>
> Oh, I understand. I have a masters in Poli Sci. What I am saying
is that if the Dems don't get there shit together I am leaving the
party. Yea. I ve been taught that a vote for a third party is a
wasted vote. But I really have no other choice. I can't imagine the
US as a reflection of Chicago - its a great place to visit.... but
that's it. And I can't imagine the US continuing on its path as arms
dealer and hawk.
>
> No man. If its not Hillary. I'm becoming a libertarian.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Edward Hochman <whovian7_2000@...>
> To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 11:23:41 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Re: "The boys always wanted me to quit"
>
> Kay, the positions of the Libertarian Party and Hillary are so
different this would take a volume to itself. I really don't think
you want to go there due to philosophies itself. But if you were to,
you really want McCain to win? the libertarian party doesn't have a
whim of a chance and from diverting there, all that it would do is to
reduce the vote that could have won the Presidency for a Democrat
whether it is Hillary which you and I want or Barack Obama which I
would prefer over Bush's minime version of himself. Only this would
be worse since McCain could make many of Bushes legislation permanent
and this would be horrible. I prefer Hillary as I have said but
should Obama win the nomination, I will vote for Obama, not out of
any initial support but the alternatives are so much worse. If
McCain wins, he may look towards a preemptive strike to Iran. I
don't think we can afford to be the world's policeman. there will be
no chance for any health
> care plan that matters, education... .....need I say more. Please
reconsider.
>
> ed
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: kay noeth <kaynoeth@yahoo. com>
> To: Dems2008@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:26:24 AM
> Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Re: "The boys always wanted me to quit"
>
>
> You know what ... All this worrying about racism has me so turned
off that I am NEVER going to vote for Obama . As a matter of fact, I
can't stand how every one treats him with kid gloves, because he is
black. You know, if Hillary doesn't win the primary I'm going to
vote libertarian. Chicago politicians are notoriously crooked, I use
to live in Chicago. And it is SO polarized. It is definitely no
melting pot. And this BS about his wife being another Jackie O....
really turns me off. I see no similarily what so ever.
>
> I hate Iraq, but the war on drugs, here at home is far worse. Its
not a war on drugs, its a war on our own people and a war on our
freedoms. It is imprisoning our people, killing our people, ruining
lives by the MILLIONS - screw the war in Iraq. Those hawks are over
there because they want to be.
>
> Someone needs to stand up with some balls and Fix our country. We
have become a police state.
>
> Stop the War on Drugs. Free its Political Prisoners. Compensate
its veteran.
>
> Stop the Growth of the Prison Industrial Complex.
>
> You want to talk a black issue, the war on drugs is mostly a black
issue and Obama doesn't even mention it.
>
> Hell, if you are going to vote for someone as out of touch as
Obama, you may as well vote for the idiot McCain.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Edward Hochman <whovian7_2000@ Yahoo.com>
> To: Dems2008@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2008 10:01:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Re: "The boys always wanted me to quit"
>
>
> She is loosing because her campaign sucks. The more she believes
this is about her being a girl, and girl power the less likely she
will win a national office
>
> So instead of just being loose, she is "loosing" what
does "loosing" mean?
>
> Now Ras, you would not want to have a candidate for office quit at
the first sign of opposition would you? True she has been running and
everything is not as rosey as it once was but neither has it been
easy for Barack. Should Barack have quit by the 3rd state's primary?
I would hope not. Let's see this one through..... ....as if we had a
choice...... .the only person who will be making that choice is
Hillary.
>
> ed
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: raschueller <raschueller@ yahoo.com>
> To: Dems2008@yahoogroup s.com
> Sent: Sunday, April 6, 2008 4:02:54 PM
> Subject: [Dems2008] Re: "The boys always wanted me to quit"
>
> --- In Dems2008@yahoogroup s.com, nancy m gibson <nmgibson@ .>
wrote:
> >
> > And all the time I just thought it was a tea party. Us stupid
women
> > We so lack that big bright masculine brain.------ -Nan (being
sarcastic)
> >
>
> "Us Stupid women"? Isn't that exactly what you have been saying
about
> Obama all along. Toughen up. This is what the REAL election is going
> to be like. Is that what you think about Black people? They are too
> stupid to realize its a real campaign? They lack your BIG WHITE
brain?
> Ohhhhhh wait. Yeah That would be a stupid assertion wouldn't it.
Your
> candidate isn't loosing because she is a girl. She is loosing
because
> her campaign sucks. The more she believes this is about her being a
> girl, and girl power the less likely she will win a national
office. I
> have heard her and her supporters blame Bill, blame sexist men, a
> devious press, and shuffling papers, its time for the girls to grow
up
> and face facts. When you run a crappy campaign you loose. The
> Gephardt/Harkin boys and girls clobbered her. Now she is bitter
> because she lacks the ability to be a gracious looser. She ahs
whined
> endlessly throughout this campaign then dared people to call her a
> whiner. Fact is she is a whiner. Fact is she needs to spend some
more
> time playing sports to learn how to loose gracefully.
>
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