From: Edward Hochman <whovian7_2000@Yahoo.com>
To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 2:08:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Hillary's Healthcare Plan Rocks
From: Rob Harrington <Eamon1916@yahoo.com>
To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 1:36:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Hillary's Healthcare Plan Rocks
What kind of plan is that?
From: Edward Hochman <whovian7_2000@Yahoo.com>
To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 1:26:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Hillary's Healthcare Plan Rocks
From: Rob Harrington <Eamon1916@yahoo.com>
To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 11:57:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Hillary's Healthcare Plan Rocks
And what's the penalty for lying to the gov't?
From: Edward Hochman <whovian7_2000@Yahoo.com>
To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 11:12:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Hillary's Healthcare Plan Rocks
I dug further than that statement. The plan requires health insurance whether your current plan or one of the government plans. The fine point is that if you are satisfied with your own plan, you will not be required to pay into the government plans. There would be probably a form to fill out saying that you have a private plan and that will be that.
ed
I called the Clinton campaign office in Pennsylvania today sat at 11: 05 am and talked to them on that. Nice to have a cell phone that is free on saturday and sunday.
From: Rob Harrington <Eamon1916@yahoo.com>
To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 10:21:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Hillary's Healthcare Plan Rocks
Clinton has not always specified the enforcement measures she would embrace, but when pressed on ABC's "This Week," she said: "I think there are a number of mechanisms" that are possible, including "going after people's wages, automatic enrollment."
http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8599,1709472,00.html
From: Edward Hochman <whovian7_2000@Yahoo.com>
To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 10:09:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Hillary's Healthcare Plan Rocks
No! If you read the info and click on the hyperlink, you will learn that Hillary won't touch their paycheck.
ed
From: Rob Harrington <Eamon1916@yahoo.com>
To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 10:07:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Hillary's Healthcare Plan Rocks
From: Edward Hochman <whovian7_2000@Yahoo.com>
To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 9:56:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Hillary's Healthcare Plan Rocks
Then Hillary's Plan will work for them.
ed
From: Rob Harrington <Eamon1916@yahoo.com>
To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 9:49:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Hillary's Healthcare Plan Rocks
From: Edward Hochman <whovian7_2000@Yahoo.com>
To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 9:39:11 AM
Subject: [Dems2008] Hillary's Healthcare Plan Rocks
and that is one reason that I prefer Hillary Clinton. She has a great plan and her plan includes children. Here is what she says in her website:
Hillary's American Health Choices Plan covers all Americans and improves health care by lowering costs and improving quality. It speaks to American values, American families, and American jobs.
It puts the consumer in the driver's seat by offering more choices and lowering costs. If you're one of the tens of million Americans without coverage or if you don't like the coverage you have, you will have a choice of plans to pick from and that coverage will be affordable. Of course, if you like the plan you have, you can keep it.
- Affordable: Unlike the current health system where insurance premiums send people into bankruptcy, the plan provides tax credits for working families to help them cover their costs. The tax credits will ensure that working families never have to pay more than a limited percentage of their income for health care.
- Available: No discrimination. The insurance companies can't deny you coverage if you have a pre-existing condition.
- Reliable: It's portable. If you change or lose your job, you keep your health care.
If you have a plan you like, you keep it. If you want to change plans or aren't currently covered, you can choose from dozens of the same plans available to members of Congress, or you can opt into a public plan option like Medicare. And working families will get tax credits to help pay their premiums.
Small businesses are the engine of new job growth in the U.S. economy but face bigger challenges when it comes to providing health care for their employees. Hillary would give tax credits to small businesses that provide health care to their workers to help defray their coverage costs. This will make small businesses more competitive and help create good jobs with health benefits that will stay here in the U.S.
Insurance companies won't be able to deny you coverage or drop you because their computer model says you're not worth it. They will have to offer and renew coverage to anyone who applies and pays their premium. And like other things that you buy, they will have to compete for your business based on quality and price. Families will have the security of knowing that if they become ill or lose their jobs, they won't lose their coverage.
Nobody has worked harder or longer to improve health care than Hillary Clinton. From her time in Arkansas when she improved rural health care to her successful effort to help create the SCHIP Children's Health Insurance program which now covers six million children, Hillary has the strength and experience to ensure that every man, woman and child in America has quality, affordable health care.
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/healthcare/americanhealthchoicesplan.pdf
Ed
This is what I mean by positive emails re: the issues in this season's primary.
From: Lou B <loubrex@gmail.com>
To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 7:23:52 AM
Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Re: Lisa-Clinton may be the one holding up counting Florida and Michigan
Lisa- I agree, all this talk about universal healthcare is BS. True Universal healthcare is a
single payer system that covers you from birth. Unfortunately, the farthest we can go in
the democratic party is mandated healthcare. As you say, a benefit to industry, not the
individual. That is why I like Obama's plan, atleast he is realistic. I think he has the next
step in achieving a single payer system. The sad thing is that we may have had something
similer to obama's plan in 1993, if hillary didn't oppose non-mandated healthcare...did i
tell you i don't have healthcare.
--- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, lisa pallez <lisapallez@...> wrote:
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> How did you think she was good on health-care Lou?
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> I think she's good on health-care for the industry, not the people, but would love to
hear what you thought was good.
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> I think we need single-payer universal health-care, Medicare for all, a la HR 676. Let
me know if you're not familiar with it, it's been swept under the rug, and I'll share some
info. The Congress will decide this issue, no matter who is elected.
>
> Lisa
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> Lou B <loubrex@...> wrote:
> yes that is true but if you take the 10 contests yet to be run and divide those in half
which would be fairly accurate, then Obama would have enough delegates to win.
>
> I was a supporter of Hillary until she began to bring increasing negatives into the mix
that turned me off and I have seen her twice in a small group she is very good especially
on health care which I feel is very important. The main reason I now like Obama is that I
feel unless we can be brought together it will be very difficult for us to accomplish much
and we have so much to fix after the Bush train reck.
>
> Lou
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