catpurdy,
hi. by the way what do you hope to gain by bringing this up for the upteenth time. can you concentrate on Hillary's positive that we support.........unless you prefer Senator Obama's program. the way to persuade is not to knock your opponent but to give people reasons to support your candidate. there are more than enough reasons and I hope that you do support Hillary...with this type of email that is below, I wouldn't vote for her. I don't think that you would either. there is nothing here supporting her candidacy.
ed
----- Original Message ----
From: "catpurdy@aol.com" <catpurdy@aol.com>
To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 11:40:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Re: Ferraro, etc - ras
While you may not be for Obama because you are "caught up in the concept", why do you think he's getting 80-90% of the black vote?
Obama acknowledges, with no small irony, that he benefits from his race.
If he were white, he once bluntly noted, he would simply be one of nine freshmen senators, almost certainly without a multimillion-dollar book deal and a shred of celebrity. Or would he have been elected at all?
http://obama.senate.gov/news/050626-when_it_comes_to_race_obama_ma/
Ferraro was right
No evidence of sexism? You're not looking.
raschueller@yahoo.com writes:
>You're talking about Geraldine Ferraro, right. NOT Hillary Clinton.
The Obama
>campaign found her initial comments in a tiny California newspaper,
pushed it
>to the media as a race issue, they bit and turned it into a media
circus.
No Ferarro did. She was on 5 different news shows restaating her
initial comment. Lets look at what she actually said.
"If [Barack] Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position.
And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position.
He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught
up in the concept."
My biggest problem is the phrase "caught up in the concept." I don't
feel caught up in a concept. I didn't say oooh novel a black
president. In fact a number of us who now support Obama came from
other candidates and precious few of us ever left our candidate to
support Clinton. We didn't do it because he is black. Thats stupid. In
fact I think that outside of a small portion of his supporters few of
us consider whether he is black, green, or orange. Keep in mind it is
Ferraro that pushed this out front, and don't for a minute think that
this was not done without the blessing of the campaign. She was
representing the campaign at the time... also she was not asked to
resign. If this incident stood alone... I would let it go. But it
didn't. As far as death threats. Bullshit. Death threats would have
brought about the involvement of the FBI. I do not believe for a
second that their were death threats against the woman or their would
have been a federal investigation and she likely would have been given
police protection. Whats most amusing is the accusations of sexism.
That she is being picked on by being asked the first question in
debates by a sexist media. A huge unfounded lie. That she is being
picked on ebcause she is a girl. Yet the ONLY one to use the phrase
girl is ehr ... over and over and over. I would challenge you to find
one shred of evidence of sexism in this race. I do have one.
I guess its ok to pick on a girl....
Bill Clinton
Your turn.
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From: "catpurdy@aol.com" <catpurdy@aol.com>
To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 11:40:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Re: Ferraro, etc - ras
While you may not be for Obama because you are "caught up in the concept", why do you think he's getting 80-90% of the black vote?
Obama acknowledges, with no small irony, that he benefits from his race.
If he were white, he once bluntly noted, he would simply be one of nine freshmen senators, almost certainly without a multimillion-dollar book deal and a shred of celebrity. Or would he have been elected at all?
http://obama.senate.gov/news/050626-when_it_comes_to_race_obama_ma/
Ferraro was right
No evidence of sexism? You're not looking.
raschueller@yahoo.com writes:
>You're talking about Geraldine Ferraro, right. NOT Hillary Clinton.
The Obama
>campaign found her initial comments in a tiny California newspaper,
pushed it
>to the media as a race issue, they bit and turned it into a media
circus.
No Ferarro did. She was on 5 different news shows restaating her
initial comment. Lets look at what she actually said.
"If [Barack] Obama was a white man, he would not be in this position.
And if he was a woman (of any color) he would not be in this position.
He happens to be very lucky to be who he is. And the country is caught
up in the concept."
My biggest problem is the phrase "caught up in the concept." I don't
feel caught up in a concept. I didn't say oooh novel a black
president. In fact a number of us who now support Obama came from
other candidates and precious few of us ever left our candidate to
support Clinton. We didn't do it because he is black. Thats stupid. In
fact I think that outside of a small portion of his supporters few of
us consider whether he is black, green, or orange. Keep in mind it is
Ferraro that pushed this out front, and don't for a minute think that
this was not done without the blessing of the campaign. She was
representing the campaign at the time... also she was not asked to
resign. If this incident stood alone... I would let it go. But it
didn't. As far as death threats. Bullshit. Death threats would have
brought about the involvement of the FBI. I do not believe for a
second that their were death threats against the woman or their would
have been a federal investigation and she likely would have been given
police protection. Whats most amusing is the accusations of sexism.
That she is being picked on by being asked the first question in
debates by a sexist media. A huge unfounded lie. That she is being
picked on ebcause she is a girl. Yet the ONLY one to use the phrase
girl is ehr ... over and over and over. I would challenge you to find
one shred of evidence of sexism in this race. I do have one.
I guess its ok to pick on a girl....
Bill Clinton
Your turn.
**************
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