Re: [Dems2008] Re: First liberal President in 40 years

I don't understand why anybody would want to be a socialist. he very definition of the word democrat contradicts socialism. There isn't one socialist country in the world that has more equality and equal distribution of wealth in the wolrd thatn the US.

 

France has a 12% unemplyment rate. They can't afford there healthcare system and many more people based on population live below the poverty level in the US. We may need to get awat from the religious right in this country but socialism is not the answer.

 

Please research news and media in countries other than America. Most countries have higher unemplument, worse healthcare and many more people living in poverty than America. I am a democrat that realizes some things can be improved in this country but I also realize that buy studying other countries media that they are far from having answers.

 

America is supposed to be the land of opportunity and a place that is a true democracy. Anybody that is a socialist can choose to move out of the country.

 

raschueller <raschueller@yahoo.com> wrote:

--- In Dems2008@yahoogroups.com, nancy m gibson <nmgibson@...> wrote:
>
> Neither Obama or Hillary are that liberal and they certainly do not
> border on socialism. By the way I am a socialist and if I thought we
had a chance I would not be voting for a Democrat.-------------Nan

Hmmm scary stuff... Nan you and I agree.

Your concept of history is ... well for lack of a better word
interesting. Dukakis was a weak candidate and McGovern in some ways
even weaker. But their weaknesses had nothing to do with being liberal
they had to do with poorly run campaigns. Gore ran as a centrist and
lost to a very weak republican. Why? Because he ran a shoddy campaign.
And without trying to make Nan mad, the same people involved in those
campaigns are the same people running Hillary's run. For a myriad of
reasons they don't run a good campaign. In 2002 the people that
masterminded the Clinton campaign "got it". By 2006 those guys and
gals were gone, replaced with arguably smarter but definitely less
politically savy staffers. For a Democrat to win, it has NOTHING to do
with position on issues. It has EVERYTHING to do with running a highly
professional, fiscally well managed, and positive oriented campaign.
The elect me because I am obviously better stuff does not wash.

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