California that she had decided to go to the event
that morning, and support Obama because her daughter
encouraged her. I misspoke about Gov of Missouri, it
was the Senator, Claire McCaskill of Missouri, who was
on Bill Mahr Friday night and said her daughter called
her a slug, was in her face, I'll never speak to you
again, etc., Mahr referred to them as the "mommy
please" voters. Jim Doyle was on Hardball with Chris
"spew" Matthews when he said it.
--- Gabrielle Latham <gabrielled2003@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Isabelle, do you have an article or some proof of
> this statement? I can find nowhere that says The
> two Govs or Maria Shriver support Obama because
> their teenagers badgered them into it.
>
> isabelle <isabelle_ms@yahoo.com> wrote: The
> super delegates are ridiculous. What is with
> these people who come on t.v. and say they are
> supporting Obama because their kids badger them into
> it, as the gov of Wisconsin and gov of Missouri,
> Maria
> Shriver, etc., have said. That's a retarded reason
> to
> support somebody. When I want advice from a teenager
> it will be on the best way to use a beer bong. I
> still
> haven't decided who to vote for, but I won't be
> polling the local junior high to make my decision.
>
> --- raschueller <raschueller@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > There are about 1100 delegates left (not counting
> > super-delegates) to
> > be allocated. The problem is not so much can
> Hillary
> > win but what it
> > would take for her to "triumph", second what would
> > be the effect of
> > her victory to the party, and finally is whether
> or
> > not she is electable.
> >
> > (A brief perspective here.... I am a long time
> > Democratic Supporter..
> > I even beat the streets of Jonesboro, Arkansas for
> > Kerry (god help us
> > all for that debacle)
> >
> > Hillary's best hope to win rests on getting
> Obama's
> > negatives up. She
> > will never significantly move her own negatives
> > down. Plus she does
> > not have to outright win. She just has to prevent
> > Obama from getting
> > 806 some delegates. She has to create doubt and
> > undermine him at every
> > turn. It is interesting to note that they (the
> > Hillary campaign) seem
> > to be satisfied with the results in Wisconsin and
> > there move to
> > increase Obamas negatives - she can not reasonably
> > be expected to win
> > the delegate count so she is playing for an
> > undecided nomination going
> > into the convention, and leave the superdelegates
> no
> > choice. So what
> > we can expect is alot of negative advertising a
> > fairly contentious
> > debate where she needs to knock him off his game
> and
> > he does not
> > necessarily debate well.
> >
> > If her strategy works the result for the party has
> > three possible
> > outcomes. First there is the Clinton camp
> > philosophy. This philosophy
> > says that we all (Democratic supporters) love the
> > Clinton's and that
> > when the rubber hits the road we will all
> supporter
> > her whole
> > heartedly. All of the passion spent in the primary
> > will come together
> > in a lovefest that results in the dream ticket
> > Clinton, Obama, and the
> > first laddy. This is evident in the rhetoric of
> her
> > supporters. Second
> > outcome: malaise. The enthusiasm that can be felt
> in
> > the Obama
> > campaign gets lost in translation, it seems like
> > more of the same, and
> > even the first woman president with the first
> > african american vice
> > president can not break the ice. Someone points
> out
> > that for the last
> > 28 years there has been a Clinton or a Bush on the
> > ballot, and
> > everyone gets really depressed. Finally. the least
> > likely outcome is
> > an utter meltdown at the convention with a number
> of
> > angry unsatisfied
> > delegates heading for the doors and an angry core
> > browbeating the
> > convention.
> >
> > Finally is she electable and what can we expect
> from
> > an appointed
> > nomination of Clinton?
> >
> > Her negatives are sky high, not her fault. Just
> > reality. She walks a
> > fine line that can be scary. She was a central
> > figure in the Clinton
> > administration yet she opposed Nafta? She lead the
> > fight on Healthcare
> > yet she and her team got dusted in 1993 for a
> > failure to deliver and
> > more importantly a failure to prevent a public
> > relations backlash
> > awhich resulted in her leadership being shunted
> > aside... an issue no
> > one has yet brought up... but they will. Lets face
> > it... Hillary is
> > the one force that can unite the republicans and
> > destroy the inroads
> > made this primary with young voters. To liberals
> she
> > is suspect
> > (unless your one of those that yells we love you
> > Hillary alot), to
> > conservatives she is poison, and she is angry. She
> > sees politics as
> > war, she sees this nomination as rightfully hers,
> > and she is ready to
> > take the battle to the Republicans.
> >
> >
>
>
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