That's been well known for a long time...
But hey I'll take whatever kudos for Obama you give... ;)
__._,_.___ But hey I'll take whatever kudos for Obama you give... ;)
Slainte,
Rob Harrington
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From: nancy m gibson <nmgibson@JUNO.COM>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 12:19:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Re: How Liberal is Obama?
From: nancy m gibson <nmgibson@JUNO.COM>
To: Dems2008@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 2, 2008 12:19:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Dems2008] Re: How Liberal is Obama?
If there is any truth in this, Obama just got a thumbs up from me.---Nan
But don't get excited I am still 100% for Hillary.
NEVER COMPLAIN AND NEVER EXPLAIN: MOVE IMMEDIATELY
TO ATTACK---------------from The Lion & The Unicorn
TO ATTACK---------------from The Lion & The Unicorn
Obama and the 'L' Word
By PETER WEHNER
April 2, 2008; Page A14
When it comes to being labeled "a liberal," Barack Obama is
dismissive. "Oh, he's liberal. He's liberal," he said recently in
describing a characterization of him by Republicans. "Let me tell you
something. There's nothing liberal about wanting to reduce money in
politics. It's common sense. . . . There's nothing liberal about
wanting to make sure that everybody has health care."
Mr. Obama needs to inoculate himself against the claim that he's a
liberal. For the past quarter-century it has been consistently the
most effective charge made by Republicans against Democrats. America
is a center-right country and in modern times has not elected a
thoroughgoing liberal as president (Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton ran
as moderate Democrats). The problem is that, by any reasonable
standard, Mr. Obama is an orthodox liberal.
National Journal rated him as the most liberal person in the Senate
in 2007, and for good reason. On economic policy, Mr. Obama favors
higher income, Social Security and corporate taxes. He supports
massive increases in domestic spending and greater government
regulation of the economy. He favors a significantly larger role for
the federal government in health care. He opposes the North American
Free Trade Agreement.
Mr. Obama has criticized the Supreme Court's decision to uphold a
partial birth abortion ban, and he wants to repeal the Defense of
Marriage Act. He voted against John Roberts and Samuel Alito for the
Supreme Court. In Illinois, Mr. Obama supported banning the
manufacture, sale and possession of handguns. And he supports
granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.
On national security matters, Mr. Obama voted to deny legal immunity
to telecom companies that have cooperated with the government in
warrantless wiretapping of suspected terrorists. He wants to grant
habeas corpus rights to detainees held at Guantanamo Bay. He supports
a full-scale withdrawal from Iraq. And he says, in his first year in
office, he would meet with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela,
Cuba and North Korea without preconditions.
It's no wonder that Mr. Obama has been endorsed by Moveon.org – one
of the most radical groups within the liberal universe.
By PETER WEHNER
April 2, 2008; Page A14
When it comes to being labeled "a liberal," Barack Obama is
dismissive. "Oh, he's liberal. He's liberal," he said recently in
describing a characterization of him by Republicans. "Let me tell you
something. There's nothing liberal about wanting to reduce money in
politics. It's common sense. . . . There's nothing liberal about
wanting to make sure that everybody has health care."
Mr. Obama needs to inoculate himself against the claim that he's a
liberal. For the past quarter-century it has been consistently the
most effective charge made by Republicans against Democrats. America
is a center-right country and in modern times has not elected a
thoroughgoing liberal as president (Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton ran
as moderate Democrats). The problem is that, by any reasonable
standard, Mr. Obama is an orthodox liberal.
National Journal rated him as the most liberal person in the Senate
in 2007, and for good reason. On economic policy, Mr. Obama favors
higher income, Social Security and corporate taxes. He supports
massive increases in domestic spending and greater government
regulation of the economy. He favors a significantly larger role for
the federal government in health care. He opposes the North American
Free Trade Agreement.
Mr. Obama has criticized the Supreme Court's decision to uphold a
partial birth abortion ban, and he wants to repeal the Defense of
Marriage Act. He voted against John Roberts and Samuel Alito for the
Supreme Court. In Illinois, Mr. Obama supported banning the
manufacture, sale and possession of handguns. And he supports
granting driver's licenses to illegal immigrants.
On national security matters, Mr. Obama voted to deny legal immunity
to telecom companies that have cooperated with the government in
warrantless wiretapping of suspected terrorists. He wants to grant
habeas corpus rights to detainees held at Guantanamo Bay. He supports
a full-scale withdrawal from Iraq. And he says, in his first year in
office, he would meet with the leaders of Iran, Syria, Venezuela,
Cuba and North Korea without preconditions.
It's no wonder that Mr. Obama has been endorsed by Moveon.org – one
of the most radical groups within the liberal universe.
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